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    Monday, February 13, 2006

    Cheney Shoots Someone 



    I know this probably comes as a complete shock, but today's blog is about Dick Cheney shooting someone. The Associated Press report, written by Nedra Pickler, comes to us under the irresistible headline "Cheney Accidentally Shoots Fellow Hunter."

    "Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and wounded a companion during a weekend quail hunting trip in Texas, spraying the fellow hunter in the face and chest with shotgun pellets.

    "Harry Whittington, a millionaire attorney from Austin, was 'alert and doing fine' in a Corpus Christi hospital Sunday after he was shot by Cheney on a ranch in south Texas, said Katharine Armstrong, the property's owner.

    "He was described as in stable condition by Yvonne Wheeler, spokeswoman for the Christus Spohn Health System in Corpus Christi.

    "Armstrong in an interview with The Associated Press said Whittington, 78, was mostly injured on his right side, with the pellets hitting his cheek, neck and chest during the incident which occurred late afternoon on Saturday."

    According to Armstrong, she stayed in the car while Cheney, Whittington, and another hunter got out to shoot at some quail. Whittington shot a bird, which dropped into some tall grass, so he went to look for it. Meanwhile, Cheney and the unidentified third hunter walked onward to another spot, where they discovered even more quail to shoot at. In Armstrong's words, Whittington then "came up from behind the vice president and the other hunter and didn't signal them or indicate to them or announce himself. The vice president didn't see him. The covey flushed and the vice president picked out a bird and was following it and shot. And by god, Harry was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty good."

    Whittington was bleeding. Armstrong told the AP that Cheney was very apologetic. "It broke the skin," she said. "It knocked him silly. But he was fine. He was talking. His eyes were open. It didn't get in his eyes or anything like that." Luckily, Whittington was attended to very quickly, because "the vice president has got a lot of medical people around him." This makes sense, as Cheney has an average of six cardiac events per hour.

    The incident was, of course, nothing more than a hunting accident -- which is actually quite common, when armed men run off into the wilderness to see if they can outsmart a quail. (I hope the quail had a good, long laugh.) We would love for this to be a political scandal, but it's not; it's just an effete jerkoff accidentally shooting someone. Nonetheless, Brad Friedman asks some interesting questions:

    "Why was the story withheld from the media until now? Almost 24 hours later? The man is reported to be in stable condition, apparently, at this time. Did they wait until they could report that he would be fine before releasing it at all? Would we have found out about it at all, therefore, if the man had died? Did they wait until after it was too late to be discussed on the Sunday news shows?"

    As for Cheney's victim: Harry Whittington has been a practicing attorney in Austin for over fifty years, and has been active in Texas politics for about that long. He's a millionaire and a staunch Republican. Whittington has served on a number of Texas state boards, including the Department of Corrections, the Public Finance Authority, and the Office of Patient Protection. George W. Bush, when he was the state's governor, appointed Whittington to the Funeral Services Commission; Shakespeare's Sister reports that "during his tenure, the board paid $50,000 as part of a settlement with a state funeral home regulator who said she was wrongfully fired for investigating a large funeral home chain operated by a longtime family friend of George W. Bush. In what might seem a familiar story, the then-governor was not required to testify in the case."

    All right -- so Whittington is part of the Bush/Cheney machine, and we can assume that Cheney probably wasn't trying to kill him. When Cheney wants to kill someone, he's usually more successful -- unless, of course, it's a terrorist icon who slaughters 3,000 New Yorkers.

    And so we're left with a story which has only one element worth talking about -- hunting. My views on this subject are pretty unpopular, on the left as well as the right, but first let's consider Cheney's opinions. The AP reminds us that the Creature is "an avid hunter who makes annual hunting trips to South Dakota to hunt pheasants," and who also "travels frequently to Arkansas to hunt ducks." Friedman dug up an Outdoors Best interview from 2004 in which Cheney waxes rhapsodic about his love of hunting: "I...got started hunting as a youngster...remember buying a .22 from Sears & Roebuck when I was probably fourteen or fifteen years old...hunted everything...shot a lot of rabbits, varmints, prairie dogs, bobcats...never shot anything very big...I became a serious bird hunter about ten years ago."

    Cheney attributes his love of the "sport" to "the western heritage and setting." He says, "Look at a state like Wyoming...it is so big...relatively few people, which frankly is the way we like it." This makes sense, because in more civilized areas, one runs a greater risk of inadvertently shooting others. Cheney says that hunting "takes you to some of the most beautiful places in the world in terms of the setting," implying that the best way to truly appreciate nature is to kill the animals in it. Hunting in different countries, he says, "gives you a different perspective on the world and the way the world works, at least to some extent." And in a strange, ambling, unfinished thought, Cheney told Outdoors Best: "For me, given my career, spent most of it in politics, in public life -- everything from being a staffer on the Hill to being Secretary of Defense during the Gulf War to being the Vice President -- getting out with a shotgun or fly rod, whether it's hunting pheasants in South Dakota or quail in South Texas or up on the South Fork of Snake where I fish a lot in Idaho."

    That's just beautiful, Dick.

    In that 2004 interview, Cheney also sounds off on some of the legal and political issues associated with hunting. Taking a rare activist stand, he insists that "it's very, very important that we not do anything that would destroy great fishing." (But it's fine, of course, to destroy a great democracy.) Cheney declares himself "a very strong advocate of the Second Amendment...and that's an important part of protecting and preserving our heritage;" I couldn't agree more, and I believe it should be one hundred percent legal to own a gun just like the ones manufactured in 1787, as long as the owner of said gun is a member of the well-regulated militia, using it to protect the security of the free state.

    "And I also care a lot about gun laws," the Creature continued. "I worry sometimes that there is a growing anti-hunting sentiment that I run into with people...people who have no idea what it's all about...have never done it and don't like the idea of somebody else doing it." And that's where I come in. Have I ever hunted? No. I have also never strangled a dog with my bare hands, or flushed a mouse down the toilet. I just don't particularly get off on inflicting pain and suffering on defenseless animals. It's by no means a signature issue of mine; I'm not an animal rights activist (although I have sometimes been a vegetarian). But I do think hunting is sick.

    I grew up in a very rural part of New England, where hunting is a time-honored tradition, passed along from father to son, blah blah blah. When I was a little kid, a lot of my friends' walls were decorated with the stuffed and mounted heads of deer their fathers had been clever enough to outwit. My own father didn't hunt -- though he and my mother did raise chickens for food -- but it was a town of outdoorspeople, and hunting was normal. To me, though, it always seemed perfectly obvious that it was a sick, nasty thing to do -- go out into the woods with a gun, to shoot and kill animals? Doing it for food, if you really need to, is a little different, I suppose. But doing it for fun? I just can't see that. Why would anyone want to do such a thing? What could possibly be satisfying about asserting your dominance over a duck?

    I know that even gun control advocates are usually very reluctant to denigrate the great American tradition of hunting. They're against assault weapons, but they generally go out of their way to express deep respect for kinder, gentler guns designed to kill, say, a moose. I think it makes gun control advocates look silly. I think they should have the courage to stand up and say that while hunting may be a tradition, it is a stupid tradition. It should be cast aside, along with other traditions, such as segregation and leeching, which a civilized society has outgrown.

    Surely it's not controversial to suggest that if one shoots living things for fun, one is being desensitized to violence and suffering. And while not every hunter is as senseless and savage as Dick Cheney, is it any surprise that hunting is such a huge part of his life? This is a man who has devoted his career to overturning democracy, legalizing torture, slaughtering civilians, and increasing poverty. What do you think such a man would do in his spare time? The same thing he does at work. Kill things.

    There are few Americans more closely associated with gun control than James and Sarah Brady, who issued an official statement when they learned about Cheney's little accident. "Now I understand why Dick Cheney keeps asking me to go hunting with him," said Jim Brady. "I had a friend once who accidentally shot pellets into his dog -- and I thought he was an idiot." But Katharine Armstrong, the owner of the property on which Cheney shot Whittington, insisted the accident was no big deal. "This is something that happens from time to time," she told the Associated Press. "You know, I've been peppered pretty well myself."

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    National Nitwit has the NRA's response to the hunting tragedy.
     
    Noah,
    I enjoyed reading todays blog on the Cheney fiasco. I too wrote about the incident. I actually had a different take on the event. I found great humor in it...what with the object of the hunt being QUAIL,as if we hadn't alrady had our fill of the the potatoE eating VP Quail and....well, for the complete take, come over to my blog and let me know what you think. The best comment I received was...NRA has been trumpeting for so long:

    Guns don't hurt people. Vice presidents hurt people.

    http://sherrilsmyriadofmusings.blogspot.com/2006/02/cheneyquailhuntingyou-couldnt-invent.html
     
    What excites me most about this scandal (if it can be called that) is the amount of bad humor that is sure to run rampant in its wake. "Dad jokes"--e.g. jokes one's father would crack--of the Things could be worse... You could be hunting with Dick Cheney!/Guns don't hurt people... Vice presidents hurt people! ilk are sure to become the Show me the money!, Who let the dogs out?, Is that your final answer? of 2006, if they haven't already.

    And I love it I love it I love it!

    (Great blog by the way... I did a Google blog search of "Dick Cheney" and "quail hunting," anticipating (hoping for?) a slew of eye-rolling dad-isms, but found your entry to be brimming with thoughfulness and insight. I will be sure to read again.)

    -Ben Lee
     
    Cheney had been drinking. That's why they waited.
     
    I seem to recall that at some point during George H.W. Bush's presidency, he went hunting and shot a quail, and I remember a lot of political cartoons playing with the quail/Quayle thing. Could we have imagined, then, that Bush's son would go on to seize the White House -- and to make Quayle himself look like an eloquent intellect? I'm also reminded of Cheney's duck-hunting trip with Antonin Scalia, which raised some eyebrows a while back. Could it be, everyone asked, that Cheney and Scalia are personal friends? I can't imagine why -- Scalia only handed Cheney the vice presidency. Thanks for reading!
     
    Doug Ireland has more.
     
    Nice Cheney hunting post! I got here on a Blog search, I have just posted on this story too. Check it out at: www.debaterelatepontificate.blogspot.com
     
    What a bunch of repressed, dip shits you all are! Hunting is a time honored "guy thing" that most of you panty wastes wouldn't have a clue about. The problem with this country is that there are too few Dick Chenys and too many of you weenie, panty wastes.
     
    What a bunch of repressed, dip shits you all are! Hunting is a time honored "guy thing" that most of you panty wastes wouldn't have a clue about. The problem with this country is that there are too few Dick Chenys and too many of you weenie, panty wastes.
     
    I think Cheney was drunk. That is the only logical explanation for the delay in reporting the 'accident.' The spin about caring about the victim's health is obviously bull, since Dicky didn't go to visit him in the hospital until 2:30 Sunday. So, what other reason is there for everyone to sit on it for so long? I say it is because Cheney's blood alcohol level had to be normalized - he needed to sober up!!
     
    Well, Anonymous, I used to think that to kill for fun bespoke a certain crudeness. Your eloquent and compassionate message has completely changed my mind. The fact that you have no idea what "repressed" means is insignificant; after all, I have no idea what "panty wastes" are. When it comes to political debate, though, I'm afraid I'll have to claim the upper hand. First prize in this case goes to the guy who can spell Cheney. Don't you think the Republicans might better serve the American people if they weren't so busy shooting each other in the face?
     
    It seems many are missing one key point here,Why wasn't the VP arrested for reckless endangerment and assault with a deadly weapon.If this had been any other run of the mill hunter,that would have been the case. Why did they wait the 24 hours.What was Cheney's condition at the time.Did they have a few drinks during or before the quail hunt?? Even in quail hunting,you look before you shoot.If he had to turn to shoot the quail,suppose he would have slipped and shot the woman in the awaiting automobile they had gotten out of,and where were the secret tservice men?What were they watching? As far as the stupid comment about guns hurting people,that much like the quail are lame. Please,I'm sure they can come up with better material than that.Only morons behind the trigger hurt people. I guess all the money involved in this case will definately bury it.It's almost Clintonesque,,alla Lewinsky scandal!!
     
    So let me see, being a Vice President or President or any other high ranking position holder in the USA comes with the stipulation that you CAN'T have a personal life and you CAN'T make mistakes? It is all you worthless Democrats crying over petty bullcrap like this and claiming how wrong the Republicans are in this area and that area but have not ONCE offered any intelligent course of action to take this country in any different direction that George Bush has taken it. I don't agree with all George Bush or Dick Cheney has done for that matter but what I do agree with is the fact that this administration has done alot more than any democratic administration has ever done. So George Bush showed his balls to Saddam and Democrats and Liberals want to hang him for it...........Clinton showed his to Monica and the Democrats thought it was "humorous".....who's the better man??? Bottom line is when Republicans talk they take action and not just talk to hear themselves talk and make empty promises. I get so sick of hearing the whining of the Democrats and Liberals in this country who claim George's way is the WRONG WAY, but yet keeps their "logic" to themselves. Why? Because their is no logical information they have to offer......it's just party bashing because of their political affiliation. When Democrats stoop to the level of making a "common hunting tragedy" a political issue, something tells me the they really don't feel Bush is doing the bad job they claim he is.........otherwise you would have so much more to spend your time whining about than to waste it whining on something as petty as this. The man is ok, it was obviously an accident and neither you, nor I , nor President Bush or Dick Cheney are beyond MAKING MISTAKES. Get over it and get a life!!!
     
    Actually, its a cover up acording to someone who was there. Aparently, the victum left the hunting party briefly due to the extreeme heat. After cooling off with a wet towel, the victum then wrapped the towel around his head to keep himself cool. When he announced his presence to the vice president, Mr Cheney turned, observed a 6 ft older man wearing a towel on his head, carring a shot-gun, and imediately took the only reasonable action available....He shot at Osoma!! Give the VP a break, he was only trying to protect us from terrorists. Good shot Mr VP!!!
     
    I agree with the last person. I truly believe it was an mistake. I wonder if it had been the other person accidently hitting Cheney they're wouldn't be this headhunt that is currently taking place. It would have been seen as an unfortunate accident, just as it is in this case. So, none of you who bash Cheney have ever had an accident. From he stories I've read it looks like an accident. Period.
     
    Anyonymous, you're welcome to respond to what I've written, but wouldn't it make sense to read it first? I said very clearly that the hunting accident is not a political scandal. You're right, it was an accident. That's what I said. So you either didn't read what I wrote, or didn't comprehend it -- which is possible, as you seem to think Bush "showing his balls to Saddam" (which has thus far resulted in the deaths of 2,265 Americans and roughly 100,000 Iraqis) is comparable to Clinton's extramarital escapades (which killed, let's see, nobody). I like to debate politics, Anonymous, and would welcome an exchange of opposing views. But you are evidently not capable of debate. You evidently don't know a thing about politics; you only have a vague feeling of unfocused rage at people you don't know, based in this case on something you didn't read. Your status as a non-reader and a non-listener is the only explanation for your crazed assertion that Democrats "have not ONCE offered any intelligent course of action." (Your basic argument seems to be, "You're making this into a political issue, which is so like a Democrat!" You're regurgitating the right-wing talking points they're regurgitating on television right now.) You write as though you follow these things, but everything you say makes clear that you follow very little. Pick up a newspaper and come back some other time.
     
    I think the point Noah is trying to make (or one of them) is that mistakes do happen, accidents do happen. The point of his post is not whether or not Cheney intentionally shot this man.

    And I'm sorry, but what does this mean?

    "So George Bush showed his balls to Saddam and Democrats and Liberals want to hang him for it...........Clinton showed his to Monica and the Democrats thought it was "humorous".....who's the better man???"

    What are you saying- that George let Saddam blow him in the hallway behind the oval office or that Clinton had the kurds leave Monica in a hole somewhere?
     
    Obviously there are a lot of people in America that have nothing to do, it appears that many of them today are writing in this BLOG. What a waste this country has become just to think I served this country in two wars to see two generations of losers abuse the freedoms that better men than they will ever be died for. You are a bunch of sick puppies "Get a job" !!!
     
    Noah, you are such a moron. Your not making it political huh? How does the comment " Don't you think Republicans would better serve the American people if they weren't so busy shooting each other in the face" become not political???? One comment alone from you is enough to show me the all out hatred you have with Republicans and to compare nobody getting killed between the two President's "showing their balls" that I referred to is just your lameass way of covering up your lameass party's uselessness. As far as debating with you, you may have knowledge but it would be like Fox News debating with CNN. All you could debate was the negative. Just like you mention the number of Americans killed in Iraq in a 4 yr time frame BUT..........not mention how over 3000 Americans were taken out right here at home in one day. Just what is it that would constitute a "legitimate" reason for going to war? NOTHING !!! Because it takes Hardball republicans to get the job done and that is what Bush is doing and if all this negativity from other parties was with any merit, I would suspect that an impeachment process is long overdue.......but, it hasn't started. Why??? Again, all talk with nothing to back it up. Bush still in office is a perfect example
     
    Sisk .....your comment proves you obviously aren't even worth a reply...........But I do like the last post.........Anonymous said...
    Obviously there are a lot of people in America that have nothing to do, it appears that many of them today are writing in this BLOG. What a waste this country has become just to think I served this country in two wars to see two generations of losers abuse the freedoms that better men than they will ever be died for. You are a bunch of sick puppies "Get a job" !!!

    But then again , he was here..............and wrote too.
    seeeeeeee ya
     
    Hey you liberal bastards:

    I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than take a drive with Ted Kennedy any day.

    Stop making hay over every little Republican story and start learning how to win elections.

    How pathetic.
     
    Noah, there is a little saying for situations like this: "Don't feed the trolls."

    By the way Anonymous, if that is your real name, you see those funny little symbols I used in the above sentence? They're called punctuation marks. When used correctly, they allow a reader to easily understand what you've written. When used incorrectly, they make you sound like an illiterate fool.

    Oh no, there I've gone and fed them. When will I learn?

    :-)
     
    why doesn't cheney take his shygun and go over and fight in iraq?
     
    shotgun, not shygun
     
    freudian slip
     
    anonymous, are you so retarded that you still think that the war in iraq had something to do with 9/11?
     
    posted by Del "Dirty" Sanchez : 2/14/2006 12:45 AM


    Noah, there is a little saying for situations like this: "Don't feed the trolls."

    By the way Anonymous, if that is your real name, you see those funny little symbols I used in the above sentence? They're called punctuation marks. When used correctly, they allow a reader to easily understand what you've written. When used incorrectly, they make you sound like an illiterate fool.

    Oh no, there I've gone and fed them. When will I learn?


    ARE THERE ANY REPUBLICANS WHO HAD TROUBLE DECYPHERING MY TEXT??? DIDN'T THINK SO. IT JUST PROVES THE DEMOCRATS AND LIBERALS ARE LACKING THE BRAINS THEY CLAIM THEY HAVE. BUT WE'RE TO LET THEM RUN THE COUNTRY???? HAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
     
    As for "feeding the trolls".......note the puntuation please......the only reason you don't want to "feed the trolls" is because the trolls......in this case , Republicans will eat you alive in any political debate and you know it. Republicans aren't nieve as Democrats claim. Democrats are the ones who are nieve in believing we are. Democrats walk away from problems, Republicans tackle them head on. Get over it....Republicans are the only party that exists that has the USA's best interest at heart......proven by other Democrat presidents. If everyone is so against the war in Iraq, go to Iraq and fight against the Americans. Your political affiliation has proven you are not "for the American people" anyway. Don't let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out of the country........we don't need ya.
     
    Cars injure more people.
     
    Speaking of which...when are all of those famous folks going to leave the country, because we voted for Bush?
     
    Two things.

    Why is always: My country "Love it or Leave it", with the Republicans?

    And, what if it were the other way around? If Mr. Whittington had shot the VP? Would we have been kept waiting so long to hear anything?

    Just wondering.
     
    It only seems fitting that our former Secretary of Defense and Dark Lord of Iraqi invasion--himself without any military experience--now finally gets to shoot his man!

    Forget the late-night yuck fests. Can he enter it on his resume?
     
    What bothers me is the fact that Mr. Cheney was only given a warning from the game warden for not having a quail stamp on his license. Huh? I spent 6 years working for the Game and Fish...since when did we start giving out just warnings for folks who did not have purchased proper licensure for what they were hunting or fishing for. First time ever I have seen someone get off for this sort of thing and not have a hefty fine and or privileges taken away. I guess the elite get to live by a different set of rules than us unfortunate folks.
     
    Why won't anyone be surprised when he 'passes away' next
     
    posted by Anonymous : 2/14/2006 2:28 PM


    Two things.

    Why is always: My country "Love it or Leave it", with the Republicans?

    My reply: It's always "Love it or leave it" from the Republicans point of view simply because if ALL you Democrats and Liberals have to offer this country is "petty whining" , then of what use are you????

    Anonymous wrote: And, what if it were the other way around? If Mr. Whittington had shot the VP? Would we have been kept waiting so long to hear anything?

    My reply: I am still trying to figure out why this issue of Cheney "unintentionally" shooting someone while on "personal time"....you know, not working FOR the country, is anyone's business at all. Do you think they report on National News EVERY hunting tragedy in this country that occurs annually??? I think not.

    The reason everyone is so interested and upset that more is NOT being done TO Cheney is because he is a member of the current administration and unless it is DIRT NEWS , you whiney assed Democrats and Liberals aren't interested.

    If tables were turned and Cheney was the one shot....seeing that he is the VP of the US, I think the incident SHOULD have been reported immediately as anyone's health in the administration should be, considering failing health could constitute a reason for the American people to be concerned..otherwise, it's like any other hunting tragedy you've heard about and .........brushed off. The man hasn't died so NO, Cheney will not be convicted of murder. Put your celebration supplies away for awhile and continue to support and or assist hiding YOUR OWN corruption within your own parties.

    Just wondering.

    My reply: Now you can STOP wondering.
     
    If this man dies as a result from the shooting, manslaughter is charged. It was an accident, but many people have gone to prison because of an accident.
     
    We do happen to address the corruption within the Democratic party, unlike your party, which seems to be a buncha knee-jerk (or just JERK) Republicans. So now we're supposed to ignore the fact that Cheney shot somebody, and say this isn't news? But then censoring the media does seem to be a current Republican stance. And to be called whiny-assed liberals for holding value to human life...but I suppose someone has to be declared braindead and on a feeding tube for life to have any value for you morons...even a Republican Bush supporter deserves to go hunting w/o being shot and maybe killed by our so-called VP. And if you think your such a patriotic, righteous American, why haven't you joined the fighting in Iraq?

    To be a party of action that murders innocent people...you can keep it. We Americans are sure tired of trying to protect you idiots from yourselves...believe what you want, but a Republican did get shot and may die because our esteemed VP can't recognize a flock of birds from an actual human being.
     
    Get a life pencil dick
     
    I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.
     
    # posted by Anonymous : 2/14/2006 9:50 PM


    We do happen to address the corruption within the Democratic party, My REPLY: Enlighten me with corruption you clowns have "willingly" exposed. Meaning, exposed at your own free will without being uncovered by "US"....the Republicans, first

    unlike your party, which seems to be a buncha knee-jerk (or just JERK) Republicans. My Reply: Are you over the age of 10?? Jerk Republicans? That's the best you can do?

    So now we're supposed to ignore the fact that Cheney shot somebody, and say this isn't news?

    MY REPLY: No, don't ignore it, but while you are at it, make EVERY hunting tragedy ever, NATIONAL NEWS and then maybe we might be on a fairer playing field...otherwise, let the incident rest as Cheney is no different than you or I on "his own time".

    But then censoring the media does seem to be a current Republican stance.
    MY REPLY: And CNN does what???? That is censoring at it's best my friend. And they are, ummmm, let me see......WHINEY ASSED DEMOCRATS AND LIBERALS I DO BELIEVE.

    And to be called whiny-assed liberals for holding value to human life...
    MY REPLY: Not whiney assed liberals for holding value to human life, your whiney assed liberals for making more of an issue out of this than it has to be simply because it's DICK CHENEY...one you are against. If Cheney was killed in a hunting tragedy, do you think for a second you'd grieve over his death? Hell no you wouldn't because he's Republican. Value human life my ass.
    but I suppose someone has to be declared braindead and on a feeding tube for life to have any value for you morons...
    MY REPLY: No, not at all.........99.9% of the Democrats and Liberals I know are braindead "by choice" but I certainly don't wish nothing bad on them.
    even a Republican Bush supporter deserves to go hunting w/o being shot and maybe killed by our so-called VP.

    MY REPLY: "So - called"..........I'm sorry but you must not follow the news.HE IS INDEEED OUR VP, LIKE IT OR NOT.

    And if you think your such a patriotic, righteous American, why haven't you joined the fighting in Iraq?

    MY REPLY: AND JUST WHAT MAKES YOU SO SURE I HAVEN'T.......SEE, TALKING OUT YOUR ASS GETS YOU IN TROUBLE DON'T IT??

    To be a party of action that murders innocent people...you can keep it. We Americans are sure tired of trying to protect you idiots from yourselves...believe what you want, but a Republican did get shot and may die because our esteemed VP can't recognize a flock of birds from an actual human being.

    MY REPLY: Difference is, it was not intentional as you "whiney assed liberals make it sound". Find me a report on the topic that states it was a deliberate act, and I'll refrain from using "whiney assed" and simply stick with "whiney". If the man dies, I believe wholeheartedly that Dick Cheney should indeed be punished but he will NEVER be charged with 1st, 2nd or 3rd degree murder as you nitwits are hoping for as again..........it was an accident .
     
    Let's hope that all these political assholes can hunt themselves into extinction.
     
    THE PHANTOM MENACE STRIKES AGAIN...........AAAAAAAAUGHHHH

    HA HA HA. HA HA HA.
    QUACK QUACK QUACK.
    PEEP. PEEP. PEEEEEEEEEEEEP..
    oh nooooo!! THe quail is dead....
    WAIT. It's not the quail...oh my god..........it's a Texas millionaire!
    BLAM. THUMP.
    Will Osama send flowers?
    It's great to see Cheney actually grimace for once. YAH!!!
    hhahahahhaaahahahahahahahahahhahaahhaha
    SO LONG JERKO!
     
    all you pansy assed repubilcan shit heads would be verbally peppering a democrat in the same situation . It's only because of
    your republican loyalties that your
    searching for a rationale for the vice president's stupidity .
     
    Not to be a whackjob conspiracy theorist, but is true that Mr. Whittington is not your average bald faced lying Republican. He has a history of actually telling the truth, being involved in prison reform, and has made some pretty 'lefty' sounding remarks. (By which I mean human being sounding remarks.) For example, he said, "Prisons are to crime what greenhouses are to plants," and he openly called out lying prison officials in Texas. It is also a fact that Mr. Whittington was in charge of disposing of a good deal of the bodies from New Orleans. So my question is this...Could a drunken argument between a semi-compassionate truth teller and a war starting, pathological lying megalo maniac who considers himself to be the most powerful person on the planet lead to murder? Maybe not, but just the same, maybe...The obvious answer is that Whittington is not dead. But we havent seen any footage of him, and today they said he had a heart attack. So maybe he will die of this heart attack later this week, or complications or something. If he does, it is easy to imagine that Cheney lost his temper (he told a congressman to 'go fuck yourself' ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS). He is untouchable by law, he is a maniac, and it is simply not very difficult to imagine an 78 year old man whose conscience has gotten the better of him telling Cheney he can't go along with the illegal disposal of a great mass of bodies that the government has no doubt underplayed and underreported. If we see Whittington this week and he corroborates the story of the accident, then of course this is all hooey. If Whittington dies later this week of 'complications' from a heart attack. Well...I'm just saying its not hard to imagine.
     
    I don't like this thread anymore. No one's saying anything and people on both sides are acting like asshole shit idiots, if you don't mind me saying. If we're going to talk about something, let's talk about something.

    Love,
    Sisk
     
    I posted my previous comment before I saw anonymous' comment above which I do consider to be more than substantial name calling.

    sisk
     
    More substantial THAN name calling. Sheesh.
     

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